Comments on: The Books Of The Bible http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/ Conversations in Theology and its interaction with Culture Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:42:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: henry http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5167 henry Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:19:52 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5167 I hope it comes in by the time we make the trek to Versailles. If so I will def bring it. I hope it comes in by the time we make the trek to Versailles. If so I will def bring it.

]]> By: Hank http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5165 Hank Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:45:24 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5165 Dude, if you get it by the family Christmas get-together, bring it. I'd like to see it. Dude, if you get it by the family Christmas get-together, bring it. I’d like to see it.

]]> By: Henry http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5164 Henry Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:32:16 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5164 Once I saw Thom's post about the order of the books, I was re-hooked. I really like having each Gospel predicate the books that follow that gospel's theology in relative chronological order. Two are on their way to my house. An orange one for me to read, and a green one for Meredith. Once I saw Thom’s post about the order of the books, I was re-hooked. I really like having each Gospel predicate the books that follow that gospel’s theology in relative chronological order. Two are on their way to my house. An orange one for me to read, and a green one for Meredith.

]]> By: Thom http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5152 Thom Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:44:46 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5152 My wife got me The Books of the Bible for my birthday after I coveted it, and I have not been disappointed.  Verse numbers, chapter headers, section subtitles, and footnotes all bother me as a reader, so I have been very fond of the format.  I wrote a <a href="http://www.everydayliturgy.com/component/option,com_jd-wp/Itemid,54/p,106/" rel="nofollow">post</a> about it a while back when IBS first announced it as well. My wife got me The Books of the Bible for my birthday after I coveted it, and I have not been disappointed.  Verse numbers, chapter headers, section subtitles, and footnotes all bother me as a reader, so I have been very fond of the format.  I wrote a post about it a while back when IBS first announced it as well.

]]> By: Henry Michael Imler http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5144 Henry Michael Imler Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:17:10 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5144 after thinking about this for a bit, I think that the goal is to have a cohesive literary narrative, so I think that arranging the books as they fit best in as a unified (as much as you can) narrative. So, put the gospels first, then letters in order by date and do something similar with the OT thats how I would do it after thinking about this for a bit, I think that the goal is to have a cohesive literary narrative, so I think that arranging the books as they fit best in as a unified (as much as you can) narrative. So, put the gospels first, then letters in order by date and do something similar with the OT

thats how I would do it

]]> By: Honzo http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5141 Honzo Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:55:32 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5141 I know - there is no good way to go about it and everyone will flip out no matter what you do. Plus, there are the issues of dating that I just don't know the answer to (Matthew/Luke) with certainty. The order of the books is not a bit issue for me - the reading format is. And I LOVE the format. The only thing holding me back is the sheer fact of <em>buying</em> another Bible. I know - there is no good way to go about it and everyone will flip out no matter what you do. Plus, there are the issues of dating that I just don’t know the answer to (Matthew/Luke) with certainty. The order of the books is not a bit issue for me - the reading format is. And I LOVE the format. The only thing holding me back is the sheer fact of buying another Bible.

]]> By: jr. http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5139 jr. Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:45:24 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5139 of course you have a larger problem of what chronology you use. do you use the order of events in the books themselves?  in that case, what do you do with Job, which allegedly occurs during Genesis somewhere?  or what about the prophets?  do you cut them in and out of Samuel-Kings?  And what about Chronicles? or do you do the order in which they're written?  in that case, Paul's letters come before the gospels.  And what about the Pseudo-pauline texts? this is an interesting idea, but sounds like it has just as many problems as the more ::ahem:: traditional layout. of course you have a larger problem of what chronology you use.

do you use the order of events in the books themselves?  in that case, what do you do with Job, which allegedly occurs during Genesis somewhere?  or what about the prophets?  do you cut them in and out of Samuel-Kings?  And what about Chronicles?

or do you do the order in which they’re written?  in that case, Paul’s letters come before the gospels.  And what about the Pseudo-pauline texts?

this is an interesting idea, but sounds like it has just as many problems as the more ::ahem:: traditional layout.

]]> By: Henry Michael Imler http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5138 Henry Michael Imler Sun, 09 Dec 2007 23:16:02 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5138 I agree, reading the text in this way aids a person in understanding the whole of scripture. In my opinion, you have to start from the a wholistic understanding of a book before you can start to break it down to it's elements of understanding, the sentences and clauses. I don't like the chapter and verse method. I think it creates false (arbitrary) segments of meaning. I'd rather see a paragraph/sentence number method of breaking down scripture. I know you run into problems when you go marking out where sentances begin and end, especially with some of the pauline letters. So, they begin with Luke and Acts and not Mark? That is odd, given Luke's use of Mark as a source.... anyway, those are minor points... after all, mathew does open things up right now! I agree, reading the text in this way aids a person in understanding the whole of scripture. In my opinion, you have to start from the a wholistic understanding of a book before you can start to break it down to it’s elements of understanding, the sentences and clauses. I don’t like the chapter and verse method. I think it creates false (arbitrary) segments of meaning. I’d rather see a paragraph/sentence number method of breaking down scripture. I know you run into problems when you go marking out where sentances begin and end, especially with some of the pauline letters.

So, they begin with Luke and Acts and not Mark? That is odd, given Luke’s use of Mark as a source…. anyway, those are minor points… after all, mathew does open things up right now!

]]> By: Andrew Pflaum http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5133 Andrew Pflaum Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:16:41 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5133 I think it will help keep us out of any trap that is created by the verse and chapter divisions. I think it will help keep us out of any trap that is created by the verse and chapter divisions.

]]> By: Henry Michael Imler http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5131 Henry Michael Imler Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:07:58 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/2007/12/08/the-books-of-the-bible/#comment-5131 It seems like a pretty cool format and I am sure taking out the verse divisions helps to prevent one from falling into the literalist trap of elevating artificial units of the text over and above the author's intended meaning. It seems like a pretty cool format and I am sure taking out the verse divisions helps to prevent one from falling into the literalist trap of elevating artificial units of the text over and above the author’s intended meaning.

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