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	<title>Comments on: Contra-Dispensationalism: The White Horse in Revelation 6</title>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://www.masstheology.com/2008/01/15/contra-dispensationalism-the-white-horse-in-revelation-6/#comment-6407</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doyle,

I would add to Tom's response that while I find your interpretation of the seal and bowl judgments interesting, I don't find it compelling. The imagery of Revelation 6:9-10 speaks of martyrs crying out from under the altar for God to avenge them. Revelation 14:18 speaks of a voice calling to the angel commanding him to bring forth judgment. The language just doesn't line up. But the connection that you made was interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doyle,</p>
<p>I would add to Tom&#8217;s response that while I find your interpretation of the seal and bowl judgments interesting, I don&#8217;t find it compelling. The imagery of <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Revelation+6%3A9-10" title="Bible Gateway">Revelation 6:9-10</a> speaks of martyrs crying out from under the altar for God to avenge them. <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Revelation+14%3A18" title="Bible Gateway">Revelation 14:18</a> speaks of a voice calling to the angel commanding him to bring forth judgment. The language just doesn&#8217;t line up. But the connection that you made was interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom 1st</title>
		<link>http://www.masstheology.com/2008/01/15/contra-dispensationalism-the-white-horse-in-revelation-6/#comment-6403</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom 1st</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*edit*

That doesn't mean the Holy Spirit &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;can't" &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;speak truth to us...."</description>
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<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean the Holy Spirit <em><strong>&#8220;</strong><strong>can&#8217;t&#8221; </strong></em>speak truth to us&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom 1st</title>
		<link>http://www.masstheology.com/2008/01/15/contra-dispensationalism-the-white-horse-in-revelation-6/#comment-6402</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom 1st</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comments Doyle. I would just quibble with a few points.

First, I don't think you can properly interpret the Bible in all cases with just the Bible. There are cultural symbols and contexts behind these texts which must be known if we are to understand them. (i.e. Baptism for the Dead in I Cor. 15, or the meaning of "image and likeness" in Genesis 1:26-28). While it is best to interpret the Bible with the Bible, it is not always sufficient to answer some of the questions we modern readers ask - for it assumes the answers instead of explicitly stating them.

Second, all theories are man-made. As are all interpretations. We are historically situated people within a given culture. Thus, all our thoughts are tainted by our situation. That doesn't mean the Holy Spirit can speak truth to us, but it does mean that all interpretations are human in nature and are subject to fallibility.

Hope that doesn't sound confrontational. I just wanted to raise some objections.
Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comments Doyle. I would just quibble with a few points.</p>
<p>First, I don&#8217;t think you can properly interpret the Bible in all cases with just the Bible. There are cultural symbols and contexts behind these texts which must be known if we are to understand them. (i.e. Baptism for the Dead in <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=1+Cor.+15" title="Bible Gateway">I Cor. 15</a>, or the meaning of &#8220;image and likeness&#8221; in <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Genesis+1%3A26-28" title="Bible Gateway">Genesis 1:26-28</a>). While it is best to interpret the Bible with the Bible, it is not always sufficient to answer some of the questions we modern readers ask - for it assumes the answers instead of explicitly stating them.</p>
<p>Second, all theories are man-made. As are all interpretations. We are historically situated people within a given culture. Thus, all our thoughts are tainted by our situation. That doesn&#8217;t mean the Holy Spirit can speak truth to us, but it does mean that all interpretations are human in nature and are subject to fallibility.</p>
<p>Hope that doesn&#8217;t sound confrontational. I just wanted to raise some objections.<br />
Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not a dispensationalist or preterist, or whatever other confusing words you can think of. I'm a Christian, and I firmly believe that the Bible can &lt;em&gt;only &lt;/em&gt;be interpreted by using the Bible. It speaks for itself. We don't need man-made traditions and thoughts to mess everything up. I've heard that just like in Genesis where Pharaoh had two dreams meaning the same thing, that Revelation does the same thing (coincidence, since they are the first and last books) with the seven seals and angels. Compare them and see, but keep in mind that some of them are a whole lot different, but may possibly be a description of the same event. It further elaborates on the subject. I don't know anything for sure, but the fifth seal and fifth angel must be the same, and possibly the other seals and angels too:

6:9-10  And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw &lt;strong&gt;under the&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;altar&lt;/strong&gt; the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 

14:18  And another angel &lt;strong&gt;came out from the altar&lt;/strong&gt;, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 

Both talk about judgement, and somebody is under the altar shouting out that they want the persecutors to pay for what they did (of course this is symbolic, since the saints always loved their persecutors and forgae them). It's just a hunch, but it's better than what man-made theories have to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a dispensationalist or preterist, or whatever other confusing words you can think of. I&#8217;m a Christian, and I firmly believe that the Bible can <em>only </em>be interpreted by using the Bible. It speaks for itself. We don&#8217;t need man-made traditions and thoughts to mess everything up. I&#8217;ve heard that just like in Genesis where Pharaoh had two dreams meaning the same thing, that Revelation does the same thing (coincidence, since they are the first and last books) with the seven seals and angels. Compare them and see, but keep in mind that some of them are a whole lot different, but may possibly be a description of the same event. It further elaborates on the subject. I don&#8217;t know anything for sure, but the fifth seal and fifth angel must be the same, and possibly the other seals and angels too:</p>
<p>6:9-10  And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw <strong>under the</strong> <strong>altar</strong> the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? </p>
<p>14:18  And another angel <strong>came out from the altar</strong>, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. </p>
<p>Both talk about judgement, and somebody is under the altar shouting out that they want the persecutors to pay for what they did (of course this is symbolic, since the saints always loved their persecutors and forgae them). It&#8217;s just a hunch, but it&#8217;s better than what man-made theories have to offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Argonaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Argonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not a Christian by todays standards, my background is more hermetic in nature. I give this just as a point of reference to elucidate my observation. The colors red, white, and black are mentioned twice in the bible (listed together) in Zechariah 6 and famously in Revelation.  To many these colors appear together by chance,  or maybe these particular colors construe characteristics like purity or death. While I don't disagree with either of these suggestions,  I generally read things to have double and triple meanings,  the colors listed fit perfectly into what alchemist have long described as, the order of the operation.  These are seen as milestones when performing the operation to achieve the philosophers stone. The subject of the work goes from black, to white, and finally to red when perfection has been achieved.  If you dig deeper, this is not the only place where the similarities appear.  It's completely fine if you find any of this absurd, this is just my observation on the matter. For what it's worth, you can read everything from Jonah and the whale, to Jesus walking on water as an allegorical interpretation of processes in the alchemical realm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a Christian by todays standards, my background is more hermetic in nature. I give this just as a point of reference to elucidate my observation. The colors red, white, and black are mentioned twice in the bible (listed together) in <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Zechariah+6" title="Bible Gateway">Zechariah 6</a> and famously in Revelation.  To many these colors appear together by chance,  or maybe these particular colors construe characteristics like purity or death. While I don&#8217;t disagree with either of these suggestions,  I generally read things to have double and triple meanings,  the colors listed fit perfectly into what alchemist have long described as, the order of the operation.  These are seen as milestones when performing the operation to achieve the philosophers stone. The subject of the work goes from black, to white, and finally to red when perfection has been achieved.  If you dig deeper, this is not the only place where the similarities appear.  It&#8217;s completely fine if you find any of this absurd, this is just my observation on the matter. For what it&#8217;s worth, you can read everything from Jonah and the whale, to Jesus walking on water as an allegorical interpretation of processes in the alchemical realm.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://www.masstheology.com/2008/01/15/contra-dispensationalism-the-white-horse-in-revelation-6/#comment-5654</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what has always facinated me about that statement in the Synoptics, about the gospel being preached before the return of the Son of Man in the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24:14 εἰς μαρτύριον πᾶσιν τοῖς ἔθνεσιν; Mark 13:10  εἰς πάντα τὰ ἔθνη), was that Paul in Colossians 1:6, 23 says that the gospel has been preached in the whole world (Col. 1:6 ἐν παντὶ τῷ κόσμῳ; Col. 1:23 ἐν πάσῃ κτίσει). What does that mean? Was it as Paul says, or do Paul and Jesus have different ideas of how to define the whole world? I'm curious as to what others think about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what has always facinated me about that statement in the Synoptics, about the gospel being preached before the return of the Son of Man in the Olivet Discourse (<a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Matthew+24%3A14" title="Bible Gateway">Matthew 24:14</a> εἰς μαρτύριον πᾶσιν τοῖς ἔθνεσιν; <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Mark+13%3A10" title="Bible Gateway">Mark 13:10</a>  εἰς πάντα τὰ ἔθνη), was that Paul in <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Colossians+1%3A6" title="Bible Gateway">Colossians 1:6, 23</a> says that the gospel has been preached in the whole world (<a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Col.+1%3A6" title="Bible Gateway">Col. 1:6</a> ἐν παντὶ τῷ κόσμῳ; <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Col.+1%3A23" title="Bible Gateway">Col. 1:23</a> ἐν πάσῃ κτίσει). What does that mean? Was it as Paul says, or do Paul and Jesus have different ideas of how to define the whole world? I&#8217;m curious as to what others think about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently saw a DVD called "And then the End Shall Come" by Derek Prince...on the fourth DVD in the series he concluded that the white horse and rider represented Jesus and the gospel of the Kingdom...he also was talking about the scripture where Jesus told his disciples about wars and rumours of wars and earthquakes, but the end was not yet...then he said the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM SHALL BE PREACHED TO ALL THE WORLD...AND THEN THE END SHALL COME....(I am not near my bible at the moment so forgive if it not exactly word for word)...Derek Prince knew Greek very well and that was his interpretation...he also admitted the book of revelation was difficult to interepret and the Greek language was also not easy to get right at times...anyhow this white horse and rider has stirred me up recently...I was talking with a relative of mine and I was telling her of this DVD and she had had a dream several years ago of Jesus and the white horse army of which she was riding on one of the horses...as I was discussing the DVD something happened inside me and I felt as though something woke up inside of me...I believe the preaching of the full gospel of the kingdom, not the name it and claim it, or the prosperity messages we been hearing, nor the how to be a better person messages, but the message of the cross of Jesus, what it accomplished, and how we can appropriate the victory that Jesus won for us, how the carnal nature has to be put to the cross, how we can truly be reconciled to the Father thru Jesus the Son...it needs to be preached..our hope is not in this world or the things of this world...I pray the Holy Spirit will open up all our eyes to see the truth and get the right interpretation and understand this gospel of the Kingdom of heaven...God Bless your searching and may you find Him...I believe Jesus wants to come back soon...he was stirring me also about Solomon (who can represent the Kingdom)..how the first thing Solomon did was set things right...killed enemies and promoted the ones faithful to David...then he built the temple of God...then dedicated the temple 1Kings 8...the presence of God was so thick, the priests had to stop their ministering...the prayer Solomon prayed to God was so powerful when I read it the other day..I could barely read it..I read it with tears streaming down my face...this all goes together guys and I am very stirred because I want the heavenly, not the earthly...

I saw this and just thought I would add a few comments. God Bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently saw a DVD called &#8220;And then the End Shall Come&#8221; by Derek Prince&#8230;on the fourth DVD in the series he concluded that the white horse and rider represented Jesus and the gospel of the Kingdom&#8230;he also was talking about the scripture where Jesus told his disciples about wars and rumours of wars and earthquakes, but the end was not yet&#8230;then he said the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM SHALL BE PREACHED TO ALL THE WORLD&#8230;AND THEN THE END SHALL COME&#8230;.(I am not near my bible at the moment so forgive if it not exactly word for word)&#8230;Derek Prince knew Greek very well and that was his interpretation&#8230;he also admitted the book of revelation was difficult to interepret and the Greek language was also not easy to get right at times&#8230;anyhow this white horse and rider has stirred me up recently&#8230;I was talking with a relative of mine and I was telling her of this DVD and she had had a dream several years ago of Jesus and the white horse army of which she was riding on one of the horses&#8230;as I was discussing the DVD something happened inside me and I felt as though something woke up inside of me&#8230;I believe the preaching of the full gospel of the kingdom, not the name it and claim it, or the prosperity messages we been hearing, nor the how to be a better person messages, but the message of the cross of Jesus, what it accomplished, and how we can appropriate the victory that Jesus won for us, how the carnal nature has to be put to the cross, how we can truly be reconciled to the Father thru Jesus the Son&#8230;it needs to be preached..our hope is not in this world or the things of this world&#8230;I pray the Holy Spirit will open up all our eyes to see the truth and get the right interpretation and understand this gospel of the Kingdom of heaven&#8230;God Bless your searching and may you find Him&#8230;I believe Jesus wants to come back soon&#8230;he was stirring me also about Solomon (who can represent the Kingdom)..how the first thing Solomon did was set things right&#8230;killed enemies and promoted the ones faithful to David&#8230;then he built the temple of God&#8230;then dedicated the temple 1<a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Kings+8" title="Bible Gateway">Kings 8</a>&#8230;the presence of God was so thick, the priests had to stop their ministering&#8230;the prayer Solomon prayed to God was so powerful when I read it the other day..I could barely read it..I read it with tears streaming down my face&#8230;this all goes together guys and I am very stirred because I want the heavenly, not the earthly&#8230;</p>
<p>I saw this and just thought I would add a few comments. God Bless</p>
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		<title>By: Tom 1st</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom 1st</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice, Matt. And you guessed what my objection would be to the mixed metaphor of lamb/horse-rider. The literature allows for such mixed metaphors - in fact, in the same context Jesus is both lion and lamb - so why not horse rider as well (wink...).

The use of 'white' and the exact same intro to 6:2 and 19:11 are pretty strong cases....but certainly not absolutely definitive. 

Good info, bro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice, Matt. And you guessed what my objection would be to the mixed metaphor of lamb/horse-rider. The literature allows for such mixed metaphors - in fact, in the same context Jesus is both lion and lamb - so why not horse rider as well (wink&#8230;).</p>
<p>The use of &#8216;white&#8217; and the exact same intro to 6:2 and 19:11 are pretty strong cases&#8230;.but certainly not absolutely definitive. </p>
<p>Good info, bro.</p>
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		<title>By: cheapham</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheapham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've got Aune's commentary. Get this:

Four cavaliers motif loosely based on Zech. 1:11-17 and the 4 colors are loosely based on Zech. 6:1-8. Origin doesn't determine meaning (in my opinion, many obviously disagree), but it helps to see how John is using something established to further his own rhetoric.

In Ovid's Metamorphisis, he depicts the legendary Minos as mounted on a white horse and as carrying a bow as wel as a spear (&lt;em&gt;Metam.&lt;/em&gt; 8.25-36). In fact, there is a general history of &#34;celestial cavalier&#34; imagery in the Greco-Roman world (Dioscuri, Heron the Thracian cavalier god, Horus, or Mithras).

The greek of the phrase &#34;and behold, a white horse and the one seated on it&#34; is the exact same in Rev. 6:2 and 19:11. Interesting. The rider of 19:11 is quite certainly Jesus/The Messiah. Yet, the portrayal of the riders is very different in the two passages. One thing to notice is that the Lamb himself is opening the seals in this scenario, it seems to be narratively confusing for the Lamb to open a seal and then suddenly be a white horse and then open another seal (but Rev. plays around with narrative continuity all the time, so while it takes some work, you can get around this). 

Aune points out that the Messiah isn't expected until after the Messianic woes are completed. Yet, that still leaves room for this figure (esp. the horse) to represent the Gospel...and interesting suggestion. Oecemenius (10th c.) suggests this apparently (&lt;em&gt;Comm. in Apoc.&lt;/em&gt; 6:2).

For the bow, interestingly...it's not a Roman weapon, but it was used widely in Greece and others in the Near East...especially Parthia. I thought I was smart for a second in coming up with this on my own, but Aune also suggests that Apollo could be an intersting corollary considering Apollo shot arrows from heaven as divine punishment for the Greeks (first book of the &lt;em&gt;Iliad&lt;/em&gt;, don't have the specific reference handy). 

Aune seems to fall on the side that this horseman just represents warfare, and that the following horses represent the &#34;stereotypical evils of war: sword, famine, and plague.&#34;

So...I don't know what to glean from all that, but I hope it provides some material for you to chew on. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got Aune&#8217;s commentary. Get this:</p>
<p>Four cavaliers motif loosely based on <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Zech.+1%3A11-17" title="Bible Gateway">Zech. 1:11-17</a> and the 4 colors are loosely based on <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Zech.+6%3A1-8" title="Bible Gateway">Zech. 6:1-8</a>. Origin doesn&#8217;t determine meaning (in my opinion, many obviously disagree), but it helps to see how John is using something established to further his own rhetoric.</p>
<p>In Ovid&#8217;s Metamorphisis, he depicts the legendary Minos as mounted on a white horse and as carrying a bow as wel as a spear (<em>Metam.</em> 8.25-36). In fact, there is a general history of &quot;celestial cavalier&quot; imagery in the Greco-Roman world (Dioscuri, Heron the Thracian cavalier god, Horus, or Mithras).</p>
<p>The greek of the phrase &quot;and behold, a white horse and the one seated on it&quot; is the exact same in <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NLT;ESV;NASB;TNIV&amp;passage=Rev.+6%3A2" title="Bible Gateway">Rev. 6:2</a> and 19:11. Interesting. The rider of 19:11 is quite certainly Jesus/The Messiah. Yet, the portrayal of the riders is very different in the two passages. One thing to notice is that the Lamb himself is opening the seals in this scenario, it seems to be narratively confusing for the Lamb to open a seal and then suddenly be a white horse and then open another seal (but Rev. plays around with narrative continuity all the time, so while it takes some work, you can get around this). </p>
<p>Aune points out that the Messiah isn&#8217;t expected until after the Messianic woes are completed. Yet, that still leaves room for this figure (esp. the horse) to represent the Gospel&#8230;and interesting suggestion. Oecemenius (10th c.) suggests this apparently (<em>Comm. in Apoc.</em> 6:2).</p>
<p>For the bow, interestingly&#8230;it&#8217;s not a Roman weapon, but it was used widely in Greece and others in the Near East&#8230;especially Parthia. I thought I was smart for a second in coming up with this on my own, but Aune also suggests that Apollo could be an intersting corollary considering Apollo shot arrows from heaven as divine punishment for the Greeks (first book of the <em>Iliad</em>, don&#8217;t have the specific reference handy). </p>
<p>Aune seems to fall on the side that this horseman just represents warfare, and that the following horses represent the &quot;stereotypical evils of war: sword, famine, and plague.&quot;</p>
<p>So&#8230;I don&#8217;t know what to glean from all that, but I hope it provides some material for you to chew on. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read the WBC on Revelation and it is great, I really wish I had it. Aune does a great job of utilizing the first century culture to explain imagery. I have to personally say I don't agree with him on his take of the mediatorial kingdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read the WBC on Revelation and it is great, I really wish I had it. Aune does a great job of utilizing the first century culture to explain imagery. I have to personally say I don&#8217;t agree with him on his take of the mediatorial kingdom.</p>
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