Comments on: Pneumatological Exploration: What’s in a Name? http://www.masstheology.com/2008/08/28/pneumatological-exploration-whats-in-a-name/ Conversations in Theology and its interaction with Culture Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:50:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Tom 1st http://www.masstheology.com/2008/08/28/pneumatological-exploration-whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-6505 Tom 1st Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:24:19 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/?p=789#comment-6505 Thanks Hank. I think that's a legit criticism. I would certainly say that all 3 persons are Yahweh...but obviously not all 3 persons are the Father. I also agree that the logic leads to Ab or Abba being the Father's name...but I don't know if I wish to go there. Ab and Abba are also used by earthly fathers. Ruach is never used by a human or created being. But, to be honest, I'm not sure how to avoid this conundrum. Let me think on it for a few days. I would be delighted to do a post on Ruach as Yahweh. But I've already got 2 in the works and school is coming up - so it may be a while. I plan on writing on the Spirit as much as I can. I'm going to devote the next 5-6 months to Pneumatology in my own personal reflection/devotional times, so I'm sure there will be much to say...I hope. Thanks Hank.
I think that’s a legit criticism. I would certainly say that all 3 persons are Yahweh…but obviously not all 3 persons are the Father.

I also agree that the logic leads to Ab or Abba being the Father’s name…but I don’t know if I wish to go there. Ab and Abba are also used by earthly fathers. Ruach is never used by a human or created being. But, to be honest, I’m not sure how to avoid this conundrum. Let me think on it for a few days.

I would be delighted to do a post on Ruach as Yahweh. But I’ve already got 2 in the works and school is coming up – so it may be a while. I plan on writing on the Spirit as much as I can. I’m going to devote the next 5-6 months to Pneumatology in my own personal reflection/devotional times, so I’m sure there will be much to say…I hope.

]]> By: Hank http://www.masstheology.com/2008/08/28/pneumatological-exploration-whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-6503 Hank Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:59:00 +0000 http://www.masstheology.com/?p=789#comment-6503 Tom, Another delightful and insightful post about the Spirit or <em>Ruach</em>. Did you feel like you were clearing your throat a lot when you wrote this post given the number of times you used the term <em>ruach</em>? LOL. I really enjoyed reading your post and I appreciate the fact that a.) you incorporate into the meaning of <em>ruach</em>/<em>pneuma</em> both wind, breath, and spirit. I think that too many Christians today fail to take that into account when meditating on the Spirit. My only real criticism is when you said, "The Father’s name is Yahweh, the Son’s name is Jesus, but the <em>Spirit </em>seems to lack a name." You did an amazing job at clearing up the mystery of the name of the Spirit as <em>Ruach</em>. During his incarnation the Son's name was Jesus, son of Joseph of Nazareth (Hebraic enough? lol), this is true. I do agree that the Father's name is Yahweh. But isn't the Father's name <em>Ab</em> or <em>Abba</em> but the same logic used for <em>Ruach</em> to be the name of Spirit? But beyond that, isn't Yahweh the name of all three divine persons? As one God, aren't the all Yahweh? For example Jesus is referred to in John 12:41 as the Yahweh Isaiah saw in Isaiah 6? And does not Luke in Acts 28:25-26 say that it is <em>Ruach</em> speaking in Isaiah 6:9 and yet the prophet says it is Yahweh? You probably would ascribe the name Yahweh to all three of the divine persons in the Triune God. I just wanted to point it out. In fact, would you even consider doing a post in this series on the Spirit as Yahweh? Other than that I loved the post and keep up the encouraging word about the Spirit. Tom,

Another delightful and insightful post about the Spirit or Ruach. Did you feel like you were clearing your throat a lot when you wrote this post given the number of times you used the term ruach? LOL.

I really enjoyed reading your post and I appreciate the fact that a.) you incorporate into the meaning of ruach/pneuma both wind, breath, and spirit. I think that too many Christians today fail to take that into account when meditating on the Spirit.

My only real criticism is when you said, “The Father’s name is Yahweh, the Son’s name is Jesus, but the Spirit seems to lack a name.” You did an amazing job at clearing up the mystery of the name of the Spirit as Ruach. During his incarnation the Son’s name was Jesus, son of Joseph of Nazareth (Hebraic enough? lol), this is true. I do agree that the Father’s name is Yahweh. But isn’t the Father’s name Ab or Abba but the same logic used for Ruach to be the name of Spirit? But beyond that, isn’t Yahweh the name of all three divine persons? As one God, aren’t the all Yahweh? For example Jesus is referred to in John 12:41 as the Yahweh Isaiah saw in Isaiah 6? And does not Luke in Acts 28:25-26 say that it is Ruach speaking in Isaiah 6:9 and yet the prophet says it is Yahweh? You probably would ascribe the name Yahweh to all three of the divine persons in the Triune God. I just wanted to point it out. In fact, would you even consider doing a post in this series on the Spirit as Yahweh?

Other than that I loved the post and keep up the encouraging word about the Spirit.

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