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The Problem with The Synoptic Problem

Honzo April 6th, 2008

As I am sure some of you know, there is a nice little conference going on at Lincoln College in Oxford on the Synoptic Problem starting Monday.  There are quite a high number of high-quality papers being presented. Here are some that caught my eye.

April DeConnick has some harsh, but true words about the fundamental problem with synoptic problem scholarship.

To put it plainly, we have no idea what the Gospel of Mark actually said in the first century, or the Gospels of Luke or Matthew. We might act like we do. But the truth is we don’t. Our manuscript tradition is at best 3rd century, and variable particularly by geographic locations. To be honest, I don’t even know where Mark was written, although I can make a fairly educated guess. Textual criticism has created a wonderful eclectic Greek text for all of us to use. But it isn’t what Mark wrote. It isn’t what Matthew wrote. And it isn’t what Luke wrote. How we should handle this fact as a guild has yet to be worked out with any satisfaction. I think we mostly ignore it because dealing with the manuscript tradition is, well, just too complicated.

A part of me acknowledges this, but I think that as long as we recognize the nature of our physical sources and not become too dogmatic in our view of the manuscripts, then we can sucessfully work around this problem.  We can only work with what we are given.

What are your thoughts on the synoptic problem?  Do you buy it?  Like/hate Q?  Don’t think it is a worthwhile problem?

Tuesday Night Open Forum: MYTH.

Honzo January 22nd, 2008

William Blake, Elohim Creates AdamI would like to open up a free for all forum on the topic of the term myth and the ramifications the term has for biblical studies and theology.

Possible conversation starters:

  • Can a myth be real? In what sense?
  • How did the ancients see history? myth?
  • When looking at texts that were written by the ancients, what perspective should we assume? Should we view the texts as they did, or should we approach the text in the same manner as we would one with similar features that was written today? (i.e. it looks like history, it is history)
  • What unsaid connotations go along with the word myth? How does this impact
    Is there a difference between myth as a technical term and myth as a popular concept? How does this distinction in the minds of the laity impact scholar’s and theologians use of the term?
  • If myth, in its technical usage, is too problematic of a term for use with the laity, what can be done about it? New term? Better educated laity?
  • Most importantly, what is at stake in using the term myth?

There are just some starter questions - feel free to address any or none of the points.

Question of the Day: How To Construct Satan

Honzo December 14th, 2007

Given the shift in the way the Bible portrays Satan from a member of God’s royal court in Job to leader of the rebellion against the Kingdom of God with Paul, how do we, as Christians, construct our concept of Satan?

I think this is a great question on two levels, i) what the heck is Satan and how does it function? and ii) how do we interpret scriptures that have varying views on religious phenomena?

I have some suggestions, but I have a couple of hours to iron out a paper proposal, a panel proposal, and have lunch with Meredith, so I will leave mine later.

The Books Of The Bible

Andrew Pflaum December 8th, 2007

Here is an interesting (new?) Bible that is published by the International Bible Society, called The Books Of The Bible. It is very interesting. What it does is it first takes out all of the chapter and verse titles that you would see in a standard Bible. Then it places the books in Chronological order. I think that it is very interesting because it takes away many distractions that are in the Bible and allows for a better reading, because it reads more like a novel. Some differences in order seen is that the New Testament starts with Luke-Acts, two volumes of the same history, the follows into Paul’s letters. The Old Testament ends in Daniel.

While this may not be the best study tool, it appears to be a better read than a typical Bible. It uses the TNIV translation. It may also make it much easier for a new Christian to read and understand. I encourage everyone to check it out.

Poll Notice

Honzo September 11th, 2007

Danny, over at Danny’s Blog Cabin has a poll up asking about the nature of the bible. I encourage the readers and authors to go and vote in the poll.

The Flow of Prose

Honzo July 27th, 2007

The Bible contains beautiful poetry. However, that poetry is easily stuffed by literal translations. What flows well in one language sounds clunky and disjointed in another. Reminding us of this point is Sam of unrelated ramblings in his comparison of different translations of Job 20:1-3.


NASB

TNIV

ESV

Then Zophar the Naamathite answered,

“Therefore my disquieting thoughts make me respond,

Even because of my inward agitation.

“I listened to the reproof which insults me,

And the spirit of my understanding makes me answer.

Then Zophar the Naamathite replied:
“My troubled thoughts prompt me to answer
because I am greatly disturbed.
I hear a rebuke that dishonors me,
and my understanding inspires me to reply.

Then Zophar the Naamathite answered and said:
“Therefore my thoughts answer me,
because of my haste within me.
I hear censure that insults me,
and out of my understanding a spirit answers me.

Sam concludes with the following:

Clearly the (TNIV) is far more readable, and clearer in it’s meaning. Without being able to judge the underlying Hebrew, I would guess that the NIV is probably more accurate in conveying the meaning of the text into English here.

As much as I like the NASB and the ESV, I have to agree with him here.

Hermeneutical Methods

Honzo July 23rd, 2007

As many of you know, I do not have much formal theological training. My formal training has come in the areas of philosophy and the study of religion, or better stated, the study of how people are religious. I took a few theology classes at Central College of the Bible and the rest of my learning on the theological front has come via side readings. Some of our other authors are pastors with formal training or are in seminary or will be attending seminary after having some theological training at a Christian university. Despite my lack of formal training, I have attempted to do as much ala carte theological training on my own as my time, budget and changing interests allow.

Tangent to this lack of formal theological training, is a severe lack in a formal knowledge of hermeneutics. Ah, hermeneutics, that wonderful science of interpretation that everyone seems to go on and on about, and yet, there seems to be no unified method employed.1 However, the lack of unified use or lack of good use of hermeneutics by people is not a good excuse to not learn or employ a good hermeneutical method.

Since knowing what one does not know is the first step in gaining wisdom and knowledge, I am attempting to imbue myself with a good hermeneutical method. To this end, I am picking though two books, The Hermeneutical Spiral and Grasping God’s Word.

In the coming months, I hope to have a post series on this post consisting of digested notes from the two books. I more than likely won’t cover much of Grasping God’s Word, as I need to mail it back to Casey in a few days. Stay tuned.

  1. Disclaimer Please note that I am not speaking specifically towards anyone here. I don’t know of anyone who hasn’t made hermeneutical errors, ranging from Augustine, to Luther, to Calvin, to Arminius, to Piper, to Reese. If I disagree with you about theological positions, just know that I am not trying to slam you here. []

Deep Dish (Chicago) Inerrancy

Honzo June 6th, 2007

Synopsis: The Chicago Statement on Inerrancy goes too far and does not stand up to scrutiny. A better approach to inerrancy and infallibility is the Fuller model.
Terms:

  • Inerrancy: without error.
  • Infallability: incapable of error

Yesterday, I posted an open question about how our authors and readers view scripture. I replied that I did not hold to the doctrine of inerrancy. While this may seem shocking at first to some of our readers, allow me to flesh out my position with this post.

First, I need to give my definition of inerrancy. In this post, I am primarily concerned with the Chicago Statement’s position on inerrancy, hereto referred to as Chicago Inerrancy. According to this view, inerrancy implies that the Bible is completely true and accurate – historically, scientifically, and spiritually. In order for this to be the case, every book, every sentence, and every word must be the literal truth. :”(If this precludes your definition of inerrancy, please let me know in the comments.)”: I don’t think the Chicago position allows for any other definition of inerrancy. Consider the following portion of the Chicago Statement:

Article XII. We affirm that Scripture in its entirety is inerrant, being free from all falsehood, fraud, or deceit.

We deny that Biblical infallibility and inerrancy are limited to spiritual, religious, or redemptive themes, exclusive of assertions in the fields of history and science. We further deny that scientific hypotheses about earth history may properly be used to overturn the teaching of Scripture on creation and the flood.


All it takes to demonstrate the falsehood of the above statement and the Chicago position is to demonstrate a single historical or scientific error. I will provide two.

Example 1: The healing of Peter’s Mother-in-law

Was Peter’s mother healed before or after Peter was called to be a disciple? According to Luke 4:38-40, Jesus healed her hand before he called Peter as a disciple in Luke 5:10. However, Matthew gives us a different story. According to Matthew 8:14-15, Peter’s mother-in-law was healed after Peter was called to be a disciple in Mt 4:18. Both cannot be true at the same time. And before someone tries to say that Peter’s mother-in-law was healed twice, consider two additional problems this would bring up. First, Jesus would be healing the same person’s fever twice in a relatively short period. This implies that the first healing did not stick – was Jesus’ first healing ineffective? This is more of a problem than differences in editing bring up. The second issue is literary in nature. If you examine each pericope, one finds that they are really the same pericope, just out of order in each narrative.

Luke 4:38-40

Matthew 8:14-15

And he arose and left the synagogue and entered Simon’s house. Now Simon’s mother-in-law was ill with a high fever, and they appealed to him on her behalf. And he stood over her and rebuked the fever, and it left her, and immediately she rose and began to serve them.

Now when the sun was setting, all those who had any who were sick with various diseases brought them to him, and he laid his hands on every one of them and healed them. And demons also came out of many, crying, “You are the Son of God!” But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew that he was the Christ. (ESV)

And when Jesus entered Peter’s house, he saw his mother-in-law lying sick with a fever. He touched her hand, and the fever left her, and she rose and began to serve him.

That evening they brought to him many who were oppressed by demons, and he cast out the spirits with a word and healed all who were sick. This was to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah: “He took our illnesses and bore our diseases.” (ESV)

Details were changed for the sake of the narrative. The events are not called into question, just the order of events. Peter’s mother-in-law was healed; Peter was called to be a disciple. However, the gospels themselves disagree on the order of events. Both cannot be true; rather, both cannot be historically accurate. One of them is errant on the answer to the following question: “Was Peter’s mother healed before or after Peter was called to be a disciple?” Notice that both do give an answer to that question. Both are not accurate down to the littlest detail. Both accounts can be inspired, but not inerrant. :”(At least not inerrant according to the Chicago position.)”:.

Example 2: The Day and Time of Jesus’ Crucifixion

What day and at what time was Jesus crucified? If one goes by the events in Mark 14:12-20, the Last Supper happened on Passover. Jesus was then crucified the next day at 9AM (Mk 14-15). This differs from the account in John, the last gospel to be written. In John 19:14-16 the narrative is explicit that Jesus was crucified on Passover at 12PM, not the day after at 9AM. The last Supper was the day before. John has a very good reason for moving the crucifixion a day up – one of the themes of the gospel of John is that Jesus is the Passover lamb.

Once again, the historical details were changed for the sake of the narrative.:”(Or, they were recorded differently by two different sources. No matter which one is the case, the historical record differs between the two.)”: Just like in the earlier example, there is no question that the events happened. Jesus was crucified; the Last Supper did take place. However, the gospels themselves disagree on the dating of the events. Both cannot be completely historically accurate to the smallest detail. One of them is errant on the answer to the following question, “What day and at what time was Jesus crucified?” Again, but accounts can be inspired, but are not inerrant, at least the way that the Chicago Statement suggests.

Conclusion

The Chicago Statement and a sizable number of Christians hold that the Bible is inerrant in all matters, including its historical claims. This includes all historical claims. I have demonstrated, through two examples, that the Bible is internally conflicted on a historical matters. These examples can be easily explained away by the editing process and the need to argue spiritual points. However, if these explanations are allowed, Chicago’s strict historical inerrancy claim must be abandoned for a more nuanced claim.

What might be such a claim? I think that the Fuller Statement of Faith gives a good view of inerrancy and infallibility. While the statement does not come right out and give their position on this matter, Parableman has summed up their view quite succinctly (emph added).

So what the Fuller view has done is co-opt a term about the nature of inspiration, a term used for describing the impossibility of God’s word containing errors, to use it to apply to a view about the scope of inerrancy or infallibility, i.e. the view that scripture can or does have errors about some matters while not having, or being unable to have, other kinds of errors. A more accurate description of their view, then, would be that the Bible is infallible or inerrant about matters of faith and practice but not infallible or inerrant about matters of history and science. Calling that infallibility as opposed to inerrancy is wildly confused.

Notice that the Chicago Statement explicitly denies this a good way to view scripture.

It should be noted that the Gospels were ancient biographies, not modern histories. As such, they were primarily concerned, not with historical minutia, but with demonstrating the character’s static personality through examples. Because of this, one should not expect there to be a unified narrative time line among the different accounts, for that was not their purpose. Their purpose was to demonstrate who Jesus was and why he was important to their audiences. In this, they are inerrant.

The authors were not trying to write scientific treatises or modern histories, but something else. As such we should not import our modern categories onto them.

The danger with creeds and statements like the Westminster Confession and the Chicago Statement is that they lead to divisions in the body of Christ. Don’t get me wrong, they are useful in clarifying and communicating positions, but we should be wary in judging other believers in light of them.

Open Thread - Scripture

Honzo June 5th, 2007

Is the Bible true?I want to open this post up for a discussion on how you view the scriptures. Here are some starter questions.

  • Which books do you allow and why?
  • Were the authors trying to write scripture?
  • Do you think the scriptures are infallible?
  • Do you think the scriptures are inspired?
  • Do you think the scriptures are inerrant?
  • Is there a difference between inerrant/inspired/infallible?
  • Are all seemingly historical accounts supposed to be taken at literally as possible?
  • Can some of the seeminly historical accounts be figurative in some fashion and the scripture still be inerrant, inspired, and infallible?

Here are my short answers to get the conversation started.

  • Protestant Bible
  • Some were, some weren’t - but they all did.
  • Yes.
  • Yes.
  • No. See the Gospels’ accounts of Jesus’s arrest and trial and see John’s narrative vs the Synoptics.
  • Not entierly.
  • Yes.

Christian Idiots

Honzo May 31st, 2007

The Bible for IdiotsNo, this is not going where you might think it is going. I am not calling any Christian an idiot - I’ll leave that to popular culture, the mass media, and the university system1. No, what I am talking about are the Bibles we consume. Purl and Java articulated this better than I can, so I’ll just link and blockquote.

Purl and Java :: Frustrated by Bibles

… Any publisher, who presumed to make a serious translation of The Iliad with section summaries and little boxes explaining the text, and wasn’t trying to market it to an elementary school audience, would get laughed out of existence. Protestants believe that the Bible is self-evident and able to be appreciated by the most uneducated person, yet we make Bibles that assume that the reader is going to screw up.

…I think that publishers can do better. The world doesn’t need one more “Bible for Bridge Players.” What it needs is one that allows the reader to dive in and take the text on its own terms. Take out the pop-ups. Take out the section summary labels. Heck, take out the chapter and verse numbers. I Corinthians was a letter, not a legal code, after all. Maybe if it was possible to find a Bible that wasn’t chopped up into bite-sized pieces, there would be less bite-sized theology being thrown around. Maybe more people would read their Bibles, if their Bibles didn’t scream, “You’re an idiot!” every time they were opened.

Pretty powerful.

Notes:
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1) And their perception is mainly based in false conceptions and over generalizations.

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